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- From: jlundgre@delta1.deltanet.com (John Lundgren)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.dcom.telecom.tech
- Subject: Re: Making a RJ11 "busy" plug
- Date: 4 Apr 1996 23:41:18 GMT
- Organization: Delta Internet Services, Anaheim, CA
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- marc_k (marc_k@escape.com) penned:
- : Steve Smith (Algorist@dev-com.com) wrote:
- : : For the last several years, since 1982... I've used 220-ohm 1/2 watt
- : : resistors for busy-out plugs. I've NEVER experienced any problems.
- : : Some techs I've met -- just short the line. I was taught to use the
- : : 220-ohm method by AT&T Paradyne in 1982, and I've continued to use it
- : : ever since. And I stress... NEVER any problems whatsoever.
-
- : : So, you all can do what you like... but I vote for the resistor.
-
- : : Steve Smith
- : : Algoristics
- : : Network & Telecom Consulting
-
-
- : : David Lesher wrote:
- : : >
- : : > Stephen Satchell <satchell@accutek.com> writes:
- : : >
- : : > >DON'T DO IT!
- : : >
- : : > >Zero-ohm plugs make the telephone company very angry. Very angry indeed.
- : : > >Angry enough to disconnect your line as a "network hazard."
- : : >
- : : > Stephen, I'd never argue with you on modem testing, but on this
- : : > point I will.
- : : >
- : : > The line card in your CO switch is designed to limit the current it
- : : > can source to a safe value. (After all, shorted jumpers in the frame
- : : > are a non-infrequent event.) In fact, several of them attempt to keep
- : : > the loop current within a given range regardless of the load
- : : > resistance.
- : : >
- : : > (If fact, that line card is designed to take all KINDS of abuse
- : : > without flinching. See the term BORSCH in TFM...)
- : : >
- : : > Further, the local loop is itself resistive (and capacitive, of
- : : > course too). This further limits the current.
- : : >
- : : > Here's the test. Take your DVM & apply it across the pair in the
- : : > 100ma range. Measure the current. Then place your 600 ohm resistor in
- : : > series. Does that 600 ohm make a drastic change in the current?
- : : >
- : : > [Exercise for the student -- calculate the Norton & Thevenin <sp?>
- : : > equivalent circuits based on your tests...
- : : >
- : : > Further student query: What current will cause the 600 ohm/0.5 watt
- : : > resistor to soon become a 100 megohm resistor?]
- : : >
- : : > Just short the pair. I've been doing it for years & I still
- : : > have no criminal record ;-!
- : : >
- : : > --
- : : > A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz@nrk.com
- : : > & no one will talk to a host that's close...........(v)301 56 LINUX
- : : > Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
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-
- : As the line is current limited, a short is ok, but my understanding was
- : that either a 470 ohm or a 680 ohm(470 ohm more common) across the line
- : was the "official way, at least outside the CO environment(inside/plant,
- : the rules may well differ).
-
- Problem is that people just use a "470 ohm resistor" which is interpreted
- to mean a 470 ohm 1/2, or worse 1/4 watt resistor!!!! Do the math and
- see why this IS a hazardous and not very long-lasting way to do it!
-
- Use a short! It works correctly, and is what the telco personnel use!
-
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